Mattel explains case packs for DCUC7 onward

A few days ago, some online retailers listed the following case packs for DCUC Series 7:

Case 1:
1x Batman
1x Green Lantern
2x Flash
2x Captain Cold
2x Kid Flash
2x Big Barda

Case 2:
1x Wonder Woman
1x Firestorm
1x Flash
1x Captain Cold
2x Blue Beetle
2x Booster Gold
2x Aquaman Blue

If you order the first case, you don’t get Booster Gold or Blue Beetle; if you order the second case, you don’t get Big Barda or Kid Flash. What’s more, you don’t get all the parts you need to create the Build-A-Figure.

This understandably created quite a stir on the various toy forums, prompting Mattel’s Scott Neitlich to post on the topic.

Like last time, I’m afraid the news isn’t good.

Although online sellers and fans are some of our most vocal and enthusiastic buyers, the bottom line is that Mattel as a company has to sell X amount of figures to cover the cost of tooling, painting, packaging and shipping out high quality action figure collectibles.

While online sellers do help us reach a lot of customers in greater areas (more rural, international etc…) the bottom line fact is that they represent a very small fraction of overall sales for the company (and yes, even of specifically the DCUC line).

While we do work directly with them to supply things like case packs and product images for their catalogs, it just is not feasible from a business perspective to center the line around their sales. If we did so, we honestly would not be able to produce these toys.

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In order to continue to produce wave after wave of outstanding DCUC figures we have to work closely with our retail partners who at the end of the day make up the vast majority of our sales. One of these conditions is that we need to provide our retails stores with fresh product in every single mix. Therefore the “waves” as collectors know them have been split up into two mixes to ensure every mix has fresh characters in them. (which helps brick and morter stores move more product to collectors, moms, kids, grandparents, and people who aimlessly wonder into the toy aisle, see a Firestorm and think he looks cool enough to add to their cart) You’d be surprised how much this factor adds up and helps boost sales to the point that we can actually afford to produce the line.

Although this does not work for all the online chat board members (although very vocal and enthusiastic and we love you guys and your support and suggestions) at the end of the day we have to meet costs to produce these toys.

You guys wanted brutal honesty? You got it.

Neitlich adds that they will be offering online retailers solid case packs so they can create a “solid wave mix,” but I’m not clear on what that means–so I asked Scott. Here’s his response:

Online retailers can order the standard case packs or the solid case packs and resell them directly or shuffle them however they would like.

We’ll have to wait and see how online retailers like CornerStoreComics, BigBadToyStore and Enchanted Toy Chest decide to move forward. In the meantime, it looks like brick-and-mortar retail chains are going to be the main place to find DCUC from Series 7 on.

Of course, there are many collector-oriented toy lines that thrive just fine at retail–Star Wars, G.I. Joe, and Transformers, for instance. I could be wrong, since I don’t collect those lines, but it seems to me most collectors get those lines at stores.

The best way for Mattel to ameliorate the inevitable collector community backlash to this news is to fix the distribution problems that have plagued collectors since MOTUMM (MOTU 2000).  Get these figures into Target, Wal-Mart, and TRU in the sort of numbers we’re (finally!) seeing with the Movie Masters line and collector griping will be kept to a minimum.

My local Target (Watertown, MA) has had the same three Etrigans and four Orions on the pegs for more than half a year, with no sign of DCUC Series 2 or 3. If that doesn’t change soon, and I lose my ability to easily buy DCUC figures online, I may become annoyed enough to stop collecting it. (OK, that’s not bloody likely, but it’s possible–especially if another, easier-to-find line captures my interest.)

It appears I will soon be in the same situation with DCUC as I was with MOTUMM–frequently haunting big box stores while occasionally breaking down and buying some rare figure online. However, if Mattel can fix their distribution problems and get the product in the stores in sufficient numbers, this may not be that big a deal.

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  • hopefully all this brouhaha blows over and hopefully the online stores will embrace the set idea and we will all still be able to get the figures we want online. I dont think they should sell them sepeartly, but on a set basis only, as i think the reluctance from the online stores comes from the fact that they will be left with a whole bunch of one figure or another like the DCSH superman which CSC is trying to clearance to this day.

  • How many figures are in this wave?

    I count TEN separate characters!

    I'm guessing Firestorm is the missing Rusch variant, but what about Bats, GL, and WW? re-releases? Then where's the long promised Modern Reddy?

    If I have to, I'll order 7.2 and then get Kid Flash and Barda separately, sell/trade Rusch.

    I knew there was something up with the increased figures in a wave. I just didn't expect it to be this.

  • This is a common argument, by why is it Mattel's problem that Wal-Mart, TRU and Target aren't carrying enough product?

    Has it been confirmed that Mattel isn't getting enough product out to all the stores, or are all the stores simply not ordering it?

  • This is sooooo friggin confusing. I sent a letter to mattel and I suggested something like this but it seems like a distorted way of handling the line in the email I sent them.

    Geez. Retards at mattel.

  • Man….they split the Wave and to complete the case set of 10 by adding the A listers.

    I picture mattel folks gathering around sniffing lead paint…serious brain damage.

    Serious brain damage. wow….shakes his head.

  • stop really stop mattel….if you lose anymore brain cells, you won't even be able to use a microscope to find your brain

  • Scott knit lick the lead paint off of figures….

    I want you to know that I buy 10 cases of waves. You mattel lead sniffing fools seem to have read my email I sent to a few mattel offices and distorted my suggestion.

    Being that I collect ONLY this line, I am a MINT completist. But I see this is going in the direction of MOTU where you and mattel are doing these crazy weird swaps and ratio predictions of what characters will sell and what wont. You're going to make all new packaging for the A listers and that pisses me off.

    I am sick and tired of your package variants and therefore will quit the line if this get out of hand (it's getting really close). You guys really do not know how to handle the line…or any line for that matter except Hotwheels and Barbie.

    My suggestion was simple and because of your "cost cutting" etc. etc….I'm waiting for this line to burn out.

    You want to split the wave on a BUILD A FIGURE wave????? Guys must be on CRACK!!!!! Collectors dont want to buy 2 different cases you geniuses!

    TAKE the damn build a figure concept out

    if you fools want to do this. Geeeeez!

  • Last word: This new retarded concept leans more in favor towards kids not collectors. Sacrificing what collectors want by going half ass on what the kids want.

    I say half ass cuz it not like a case is filled with supermans batmans flashes and green lanterns and they expect ppl to like a c lister like Firestorm by including him with wonder woman and flash in a case. Not going to happen. Even with the Justice League cartoon, kids didn't go crazy over b lister characters.

    That's all i have to say.

  • Okay, those case packs answer my major question about the whole debacle and actually I think they work fairly fine. I completely agree that they're banking very highly on kids loving this line, so we'll see how that works – if every kid in america doesn't want both flash and cpt. cold we'll be seeing those for awhile.

    I personally think this may bolster online sales – if they order a solid case each of all 7 new figures there's 12 sets right there, and to order that set will be much more worth to me (Johny-buy-in-the-stores) that hoping aimlessly to finger through 10 Cpt. Cold's to find a blue beetle or booster (like hell aquaman will be hard to find).

    The only REAL flaw in this whole thing that I see is so fundamental it may backfire and piss off even kids and parents – at no time will an entire BAF be on the shelf.

  • If this helps Mattel make the profit they need to keep this line "going"… then I'm ready to accept this change.

    But I thought Mattel appreciated the Collectors' part in giving this line "life".

    I thought we were contributing by the hundreds of boxes we were ordering through CSC, BBTS, and ETC.

    I've suggested Mattel comes up with something that would keep us into DCUC.

    I would think they would try something to make it easier for the Collectors to get the complete line… and the C&C figure.

    Whether they would make single figures available on the MattyCollector website… or, as I've suggested,(without much support) …. a different packaging of our heroes– out of China.

    Anyone who's worked on an assembly line knows that it's not impossible to shift the assembly line.

    They could package "Collector Boxes"… with each of the seven heroes …plus a variant… in the hundreds of boxes that would go to the On-line retailers.

    Then, these retailers– CSC,BBTS,and ETC… WOULD STILL BE IN THE LOOP… AND WE COULD STILL ORDER FROM THEM.

    All it would take… is a temporary shift in assembling Specially designated boxes … packaged for an hour or so… on the factory floor.

  • The Chinese want to take over the world… I think they can figure out a way to temporarily shift the Mattel DCUC assembly line over to produce "Collector Only" packages.!!

    We still can haunt the Brick and Mortar stores for the one variant we don't have…which should make somebody happy.?!??

    This way, the on-line stores are better off, … and so are the collectors.

    If we're such a small part of this and…

    "the bottom line fact is that they represent a very small fraction of overall sales for the company (and yes, even of specifically the DCUC line")….you might think that Mattel could maybe help us by just asking for an "assembly-line change-over" for an hour…in Chinese.

    I wouldn't think it would be too much to ask… considering all the good it might do for hundreds of customers and devoted retail shops.

  • I have no idea why mattel says Collectors represent a small portion of DCUC sales…..isnt' the LINE PRIMARILY for THE COLLECTORS?????

    The reason why etrigan and orion are on store shelves is because this line is primarly for collectors. If kids were interested they wouldn't be any Etrigan or Orions.

  • ….I meant there wouldn't be any left over Etrigan and Orions if they were interested in such characters.

    Its been proven for years from both Mattel and DC.

    From DC Superpowers, Marvel Secret Wars figures, DC Total Justice….EVERY time they bring out the 3rd stringers the line dies.

    Does no one see this pattern? This series had WAY too many 3rd stringers. Mattel shouldn't go a FULL wave with low end characters. It just makes the company worried and make stupid decisions like this. 3rd stringers are cool but bringing this many in a way was stupid.

    How can such an idea work? Can anyone give me a toyline where this many 3rd stringers released in a wave has succeeded?

    It's upseting because Mattels FUDGES up the selection of characters which then leads to FUDGED up decisions spliting a BAF wave…which then leads to FUDGED up case packs….and this WHOLE ENDLESS CHAOTIC CYCLE Mattel is NOTORIOUS for.

  • This is a joke… the IDEAL Case for both colector and retail stores is:

    1x Batman

    1x Green Lantern

    2x Flash

    1x Captain Cold

    1x Kid Flash

    1x Big Barda

    1x Blue Beetle

    1x Booster Gold

    1x Aquaman Blue

    This way you get:

    A. Diversity of Product

    B. 2 of the Main hero and refresh of classics

    C. The entire Build-a-figure collection in one case

    I can't understand why a Brick and Mortar store would say NO to this case?!

  • @AnimateTed: I wouldn't mind this case mix. I like it! Too bad mattel doesn't know what their doing.

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