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		<title>By: PrfktTear</title>
		<link>http://www.poeghostal.com/2009/11/poes-point-dantes-retail-purgatory.html#comment-16291</link>
		<dc:creator>PrfktTear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no authority on classic/famous literary works, but I certainly can understand how one feels about certain works that are put up high on a pedastal. For instance, the film Citizen Kane, while I appreciate what it did at the time and recognise the achievements, at the end of the day, I honestly don&#039;t think its that great of a movie. I&#039;ve taken four classes in film and in each one I&#039;ve had to watch it, and each time I feel the same way about it. Yet most film scholar/critics all sing its high praises. 
 
I&#039;m sure some may cringe, but in general, if something comes along that raises awareness or interest in any sort of classic literature or film, it can&#039;t be all that bad. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m no authority on classic/famous literary works, but I certainly can understand how one feels about certain works that are put up high on a pedastal. For instance, the film Citizen Kane, while I appreciate what it did at the time and recognise the achievements, at the end of the day, I honestly don&#039;t think its that great of a movie. I&#039;ve taken four classes in film and in each one I&#039;ve had to watch it, and each time I feel the same way about it. Yet most film scholar/critics all sing its high praises.</p>
<p>I&#039;m sure some may cringe, but in general, if something comes along that raises awareness or interest in any sort of classic literature or film, it can&#039;t be all that bad.</p>
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		<title>By: dayraven</title>
		<link>http://www.poeghostal.com/2009/11/poes-point-dantes-retail-purgatory.html#comment-16288</link>
		<dc:creator>dayraven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16261&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LBAM&lt;/a&gt;: or someone who read the works and has an honest reaction, rather than the uptight meandering of relic.  i&#039;m similarly unimpressed w/ the works of shakespeare.  face it, his narrative was weak, he chose the low-brow vernacular language to write it in rather use the vehicular of the time, and it&#039;s simply put, a narrative that doesn&#039;t hold up to it&#039;s reputation.  you can stand there all you want on your pedestal professor, but it doesn&#039;t change the fact that i refuse to be swayed by your opinion.  the guy is almost literally half a tolkien... that&#039;s not impressive to me.  like any bit of art, it&#039;s only as important as the reaction of it&#039;s audience.  you sad resistance to dissenting opinion only further paints you as a dinosaur.  it&#039;s perfectly ok for my opinion to differ from yours, so in it&#039;s dismissal, you&#039;ve just reinforced every negative sterotype about you that inspired my initial reaction to your close-minded post.  you sir, are an elitist.  and shame on you.  try reading something written in this century, you may find that literature as an art has evolved dramatically since the 1200s... you know, like everything else has. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-16261" rel="nofollow">LBAM</a>: or someone who read the works and has an honest reaction, rather than the uptight meandering of relic.  i&#039;m similarly unimpressed w/ the works of shakespeare.  face it, his narrative was weak, he chose the low-brow vernacular language to write it in rather use the vehicular of the time, and it&#039;s simply put, a narrative that doesn&#039;t hold up to it&#039;s reputation.  you can stand there all you want on your pedestal professor, but it doesn&#039;t change the fact that i refuse to be swayed by your opinion.  the guy is almost literally half a tolkien&#8230; that&#039;s not impressive to me.  like any bit of art, it&#039;s only as important as the reaction of it&#039;s audience.  you sad resistance to dissenting opinion only further paints you as a dinosaur.  it&#039;s perfectly ok for my opinion to differ from yours, so in it&#039;s dismissal, you&#039;ve just reinforced every negative sterotype about you that inspired my initial reaction to your close-minded post.  you sir, are an elitist.  and shame on you.  try reading something written in this century, you may find that literature as an art has evolved dramatically since the 1200s&#8230; you know, like everything else has.</p>
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		<title>By: LBAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>LBAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once you declare that Dante was a &quot;mediocre writer&quot; you have identified yourself as someone whose opinions on the matter may be safely avoided. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once you declare that Dante was a &quot;mediocre writer&quot; you have identified yourself as someone whose opinions on the matter may be safely avoided.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16257&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dayraven&lt;/a&gt;: When the subject matter has been butchered it is worthless exposing kids to it.  Look at the films Arthur from a few years back and Disney&#039;s Musketeers. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-16257" rel="nofollow">dayraven</a>: When the subject matter has been butchered it is worthless exposing kids to it.  Look at the films Arthur from a few years back and Disney&#039;s Musketeers.</p>
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		<title>By: dayraven</title>
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		<dc:creator>dayraven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think you&#039;re missing the point... even if the game is WILDLY inaccurate, it still keeps the name alive and youth of today &quot;in the know&quot; enough that a teacher can use the game&#039;s falacies to inspire commentary and provide a connection to the actual source material that the students did not have before.  i dare say you WANT the game to be way off target, as it provides an easy segue into the written material to inform a potential audience of where the new story departs.  it&#039;s a pretty hard sell to tell kids &quot;hey, this game is based on an old story... and is so accurate to the source material, it&#039;s like you&#039;re already played through and beaten the book... now crack that cover and let&#039;s get reading!&quot; 
 
as for it employing dante&#039;s name in an exploitative way, that&#039;s complete poppycock.  dante was at best a medicore writer, and if released contemporaneously, the divine comedy wouldn&#039;t have gotten any more attention than dean koontz&#039; &quot;lightning.&quot;  what made him popular was that he was writing back when writing had just come back into vogue, and he was talking about hell in a way that people could relate to... whereas previous texts on the subject took a much more ephemeral and spiritual slant, he turned hell into pop culture... so he was definitely the stephanie myers of his day.  and obviously, john milton hadn&#039;t written &quot;paradise lost&quot; yet, which really, when discussing the fiction lit of christian mythology, is the bar against which every other narrative should be measured.  i mean, come on, the guy didn&#039;t even write the book in latin... if i wrote a book in street lingo, do i automatically gain respect?  hell no!  and i sure as hell couldn&#039;t impress people if i used passages like &quot;the moment was so breathtaking, i can&#039;t describe it.&quot;  part of being a capable writer is WRITING THE DESCRIPTIVE PARTS!   
 
but again, the important thing here is, it&#039;s a window through which one can make the past and the literature mean something to a modern audience, and that&#039;s nothing to sneeze at.  now, if you&#039;ll excuse me, i&#039;m off to spread my typos and wisdom elsewhere on the web... good day gents. ;) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you&#039;re missing the point&#8230; even if the game is WILDLY inaccurate, it still keeps the name alive and youth of today &quot;in the know&quot; enough that a teacher can use the game&#039;s falacies to inspire commentary and provide a connection to the actual source material that the students did not have before.  i dare say you WANT the game to be way off target, as it provides an easy segue into the written material to inform a potential audience of where the new story departs.  it&#039;s a pretty hard sell to tell kids &quot;hey, this game is based on an old story&#8230; and is so accurate to the source material, it&#039;s like you&#039;re already played through and beaten the book&#8230; now crack that cover and let&#039;s get reading!&quot;</p>
<p>as for it employing dante&#039;s name in an exploitative way, that&#039;s complete poppycock.  dante was at best a medicore writer, and if released contemporaneously, the divine comedy wouldn&#039;t have gotten any more attention than dean koontz&#039; &quot;lightning.&quot;  what made him popular was that he was writing back when writing had just come back into vogue, and he was talking about hell in a way that people could relate to&#8230; whereas previous texts on the subject took a much more ephemeral and spiritual slant, he turned hell into pop culture&#8230; so he was definitely the stephanie myers of his day.  and obviously, john milton hadn&#039;t written &quot;paradise lost&quot; yet, which really, when discussing the fiction lit of christian mythology, is the bar against which every other narrative should be measured.  i mean, come on, the guy didn&#039;t even write the book in latin&#8230; if i wrote a book in street lingo, do i automatically gain respect?  hell no!  and i sure as hell couldn&#039;t impress people if i used passages like &quot;the moment was so breathtaking, i can&#039;t describe it.&quot;  part of being a capable writer is WRITING THE DESCRIPTIVE PARTS!  </p>
<p>but again, the important thing here is, it&#039;s a window through which one can make the past and the literature mean something to a modern audience, and that&#039;s nothing to sneeze at.  now, if you&#039;ll excuse me, i&#039;m off to spread my typos and wisdom elsewhere on the web&#8230; good day gents. <img src='http://www.poeghostal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Luc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LBAM, DayRaven: 
 
I understand both of your points, but I think LBAM is in the right on this one. The issue isn&#039;t that something new is being done with this work; the issue is that the work&#039;s name and setting is being taken and little else. Most adaptations of Beowulf, or The Iliad, or Arthurian myth may change a lot, but they maintain a dialogue with the original work. This game, on the other hand, seems to be changing the entire context of The Divine Comedy in order to fit into a hack-and-slash God of War rip-off. If they&#039;d called this game &quot;Inferno (Inspired by Dante&#039;s Inferno),&quot; I wouldn&#039;t mind; but when they&#039;re pushing this as a representation of the story while simultaneously ignoring everything about it other than &quot;Name=Dante&quot; and &quot;setting=Hell,&quot; well, it seems a bit crude. Likewise, things like... well, every &quot;controversy&quot; and advertising campaign make it pretty clear that EA isn&#039;t intent on respecting the work. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LBAM, DayRaven:</p>
<p>I understand both of your points, but I think LBAM is in the right on this one. The issue isn&#039;t that something new is being done with this work; the issue is that the work&#039;s name and setting is being taken and little else. Most adaptations of Beowulf, or The Iliad, or Arthurian myth may change a lot, but they maintain a dialogue with the original work. This game, on the other hand, seems to be changing the entire context of The Divine Comedy in order to fit into a hack-and-slash God of War rip-off. If they&#039;d called this game &quot;Inferno (Inspired by Dante&#039;s Inferno),&quot; I wouldn&#039;t mind; but when they&#039;re pushing this as a representation of the story while simultaneously ignoring everything about it other than &quot;Name=Dante&quot; and &quot;setting=Hell,&quot; well, it seems a bit crude. Likewise, things like&#8230; well, every &quot;controversy&quot; and advertising campaign make it pretty clear that EA isn&#039;t intent on respecting the work.</p>
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		<title>By: LBAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>LBAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me clarify WHY I don&#039;t find much value in this adaptation: 
 
Mostly it seems like a blatant and callow attempt to cash in on the well known name of &quot;Dante&#039;s Inferno.&quot; There&#039;s no reason inherent to the narrative to use Dante&#039;s Inferno to tell the story of a badass dude picking up Deaths&#039; Scythe and killing tons of demons. Video game writers invent stories for that kind of thing all the time. As a capitalist, I am all for game designers making money, but if their only reason to use &quot;Dante&#039;s Inferno&quot; is to create name recognition in order to drive profits, it&#039;s a bad decision creatively and it inevitably affects how I&#039;m going to view the adaptation (poorly).  
 
Finally, &lt;em&gt;The Divine Comedy&lt;/em&gt; has maintained awareness, excited audiences, and been hailed for its genius for 700 years now. More people have read it than will ever play this game. It doesn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;need&lt;/em&gt; this game; this game needs it (and apparently a lot of invented controversy) in order to sell. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me clarify WHY I don&#039;t find much value in this adaptation:</p>
<p>Mostly it seems like a blatant and callow attempt to cash in on the well known name of &quot;Dante&#039;s Inferno.&quot; There&#039;s no reason inherent to the narrative to use Dante&#039;s Inferno to tell the story of a badass dude picking up Deaths&#039; Scythe and killing tons of demons. Video game writers invent stories for that kind of thing all the time. As a capitalist, I am all for game designers making money, but if their only reason to use &quot;Dante&#039;s Inferno&quot; is to create name recognition in order to drive profits, it&#039;s a bad decision creatively and it inevitably affects how I&#039;m going to view the adaptation (poorly). </p>
<p>Finally, <em>The Divine Comedy</em> has maintained awareness, excited audiences, and been hailed for its genius for 700 years now. More people have read it than will ever play this game. It doesn&#039;t <em>need</em> this game; this game needs it (and apparently a lot of invented controversy) in order to sell.</p>
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		<title>By: LBAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>LBAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dayraven&lt;/a&gt;:  
 
Hey Dayraven, 
 
Since you can&#039;t even actually spell &#039;competent&#039; I&#039;m going to assume you&#039;re &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; in the very small percentage of people whose qualifications regarding the teaching of literature are superior to mine. If you&#039;d like to compare, let&#039;s go ahead. Until then, piss off and don&#039;t ever try to tell me how to do my job or what I should think about it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-16223" rel="nofollow">dayraven</a>: </p>
<p>Hey Dayraven,</p>
<p>Since you can&#039;t even actually spell &#039;competent&#039; I&#039;m going to assume you&#039;re <em>not</em> in the very small percentage of people whose qualifications regarding the teaching of literature are superior to mine. If you&#039;d like to compare, let&#039;s go ahead. Until then, piss off and don&#039;t ever try to tell me how to do my job or what I should think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16223&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dayraven&lt;/a&gt;: Usually, I&#039;m totally in agreement with you.  I love it when my students get exposure to classics via new mediums.  When American McGee released Alice a few years back, that really sparked some interesting debate with my students that had played it.  Of course, Alice didn&#039;t feature (possible) baby killing or a fake religious protest. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-16223" rel="nofollow">dayraven</a>: Usually, I&#039;m totally in agreement with you.  I love it when my students get exposure to classics via new mediums.  When American McGee released Alice a few years back, that really sparked some interesting debate with my students that had played it.  Of course, Alice didn&#039;t feature (possible) baby killing or a fake religious protest.</p>
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		<title>By: Reverend Ender</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reverend Ender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&quot;M that kind of douche. But not the kind to insult a man&#039;s profession, Dayraven. </description>
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