I came across this 4-pack at the Framingham, MA Toys R Us this afternoon. I considered it, but decided not to get it.
I know the set is based on this scene from the movie, but I think Mattel was a bit too “faithful” here, because there’s basically nothing to appeal to me other than the outfits.
For $60, here are a few things I’d want from this pack:
- Sunglasses on Peter (doesn’t require a new head sculpt–a separate piece, like Egon’s glasses, is fine)
- A jar of slime
- Four–not one, not two, not three, but four proton streams.
I suppose this set is more for fans who haven’t been picking up the online releases and want some “regular” ‘Busters, and therefore the sunglasses on Peter might be unwelcome. But give me a break–this set was tailor-made to include the four proton streams. Imagine how many of these they would have sold if they’d included them? Hell, take out the Slimer and the trap and throw in the proton streams and I’d still have bought it!
But as-is, I just can’t bring myself to drop three Jacksons on this thing. Oh, and the Winston is kind of creepy, because it’s the mustache head sculpt, but the mustache isn’t painted, making it look like he got punched in the mouth and his lips swelled.





That's okay. I bought it just for Winston. Now I am trying to unload the other three.
Sooo much wasted space in the middle there. i know a bigger box helps the percieved value, but it really just highlights how little this set comes with.
@Henry: Sent you an email. I'm interested in the Peter, if you still have him. (I can add the sunglasses myself.)
Now if it came with a jar of slime AND the dancing toaster? I'd marry it.
As is, I'm kinda bummed with the Matty gameplan of releasing inferior efforts at retail without much of a discount. Sure, on Matty $60 gets you only 2 with shipping, but a retail release with nothing new and nearly identical figures that don't include many of the extras knocks the value down considerably.
It'd still be cool for me since I don't have any, but at $60 I shouldn't be left wanting much else.
They seem to like to stick to that $15 price point for retail. Even WITH all the aforementioned extras, $60 would seem like an awful lot. I paid $60 plus an additional $10 TRU Mark-up for MP Grimlock, and I think that is a hell of a lot more toy than the four GB's. This is an easy pass for me. I will be attempting to pick up the Venkman with bonus NO SLIME next month, but after that, unless we get something like Viggo or Gozer, I'm out. I'm not going to support a line for the CHANCE of them producing a figure I'd actually want.
That IS pretty pricey, but I might still get it- If the hats come off. Do they?
@Bill: They do! There's also a packaging variant that has the figures without the hats (the hats are placed between the figures' legs in the package) and has Slimer in the center.
Anyway, I agree that $60 seems pretty pricey, but I'll probably bite as I haven't been picking up the figures on Matty and the set has SLIMER. Plus it's the only GB purchase I'd be making until Matty makes Janine, so I can justify it on those grounds.
I do want this set but $60 is a lot of money. 4 figures + Slimer = $60? I expect to pay more when I buy from Matty. That's the nature of the beast. I was hoping that the price would come down a little at retail. It's not like they had to create a new mold.
Some fans on the Matty forums are reporting a few quality control issue with this set:
Egon's glasses are silver instead of black; Ray uses the old squashed head instead of the improved "Ready To Believe You" version; and all 3 of the original Busters have much darker tanned skin tones.
i was tempted to get this set because i haven't been able to take the time or effort to get them from matty but $60? i'm already on the fence because it's the GB2 uniforms but blah.
Freaky… I too saw it at the Framingham TRU. I might have passed by Poe in person, never knowing it. Although I don't think anything would cause me to buy this. Maybe if it had the streams and was <$30. Too scene specific, and I have the MattyCollector figures of the busters. Unless something awesome is shown off, I don't think I'll be getting anything else.
Anyone recall if these are coming out single-carded as well? I kinda glazed over the Ghostbusters news when it came out at SDCC.
$60?! Boo, Mattel… just boo. I'll wait for the clearance!
I guess I'm crazy… I think $60 is a pretty good price. That's only the price of two Busters off Matty.
If they didn't have orange skin… Blah.
$60 is highway robbery. absolute highway robbery. i saw this set in person and i was tempted, but if i plan on paying off my credit card this month i can't afford to tack $60+tax onto my statement.
consider this: the GB2 set is 4 figures, all the same sculpt with different heads, pretty much all have been seen before, released individually, meaning mattel has certainly already made their money on these molds. toss in slimer, some proton packs and santa hats and price it at $60.
now consider NECA's reservoir dogs box set. i bought this set for $45 and you can still find it online today for around that price. it includes five figures, and there are three unique body sculpts (tall, short, and harvey keitel), all with unique heads. the set comes with guns, sunglasses, a cup and a gas tank, plus bases. these figures were released as a box set first, and individual figures either came later or at the same time, so this wasn't an afterthought release meant to milk more money out of the molds.
so i really don't understand how a set from a larger, mass market company can cost $15 more than a specialty market box set that has an extra figure, more unique sculpting, and bases. yes, the GB figures have more articulation, but companies constantly tell us that tooling is the most expensive part of creating a figure, and surely tooling three unique less articulated sculpts is comparable to tooling one well articulated sculpt.
then you have to factor in that mattel has already released this sculpt several times, in GB1 slimed and unslimed versions, so you'd think they're just banking profit on it by now.
you can try to say "well GBs off matty are $20 +shipping" but that's assuming you're okay with the ridiculously inflated prices on matty figures, which i'm not.
man, you guys are terrible.
i thought transformers fans complain a lot. I mean, some of you are really complaining that these are "repaints"? and you really expect the price to be lower because of that?? .. wow. there are tons of repaints in tons of toy lines which has been the case since.. well, forever almost. that's just really a dumb thing to complain about. it's like saying, oh.. the original color of that t shirt is white.. so why isn't the black one cheaper..
i personally think the price is justifiable. if you buy them from matty they're $20 each plus tax, plus shipping, so, roughly $110-$115 if they were sold separately online. so this set is just about half to 40% cheaper. granted the set only comes with one ghost (slimer) and a trap. but it does come with four different santa hats, and a different color scheme (which i personally like much much better) plus you have to understand that toys r us has probably hiked the price about $10 because the set is exclusive to them. now, if the entire ghostbusters 6 inch line were sold world wide in retail stores, then the price would bother me. but since only a limited amount of figures from this line are being produced, the price in turn is going to be higher.
get it? or should i explain again?
i personally think it's great that they're doing this. i grew up on the ghostbusters movies and the cartoon. but my main hobby is transformer collecting. i never felt like shelling out over $110 for the set of them + i'm not too interested in ghost accessories.
it's great that i will be able to purchase a set that has all four ghostbusters which are dressed in my favorite color uniforms, slimer, santa hats, and a trap in a store, where i'll be able to look at the paint applications first, not have to worry about paying for shipping, all for a price that is cheaper than if i had bought the figures online… all at once.
but the price is already much more than anything else on the market in terms of mass market 6" scale figures. hell, even specialty figures don't cost as much as mattel products.
other than MOTUC, there's really nothing else in that demographic of toys that costs as much as the ghostbusters figures. as i mentioned, you can get similar box sets of other licenses from other companies for far less money, with more original sculpting and more figures.
let's use another example: marvel legends 2-packs, like you find at TRU and wal-mart. they are usually exclusives, and they cost…what, $20? $25? that's for two figures, and while there's re-use involved, you usually get at least two uniquely sculpted figures for that price.
so i personally am not complaining about the repaint aspect. i'm saying the figures are too expensive from the get go, and that when a company only tools ONE body for almost the entire line, and then just add different heads, hands, and doodads, you definitely feel a little gouged when the figures cost more than anything comparable on the market.
i'm actually glad that mattel decided to release GB figures for retail to give people a chance who can't spend hours fighting with matty's website, and i was looking forward to having the chance to get them. however, it's just really hard to justify the price, even though they're cheaper than the ridiculous online prices.
DCUC 2-packs, the MOTU/DCUC 2-packs are both $30 each. Two of them, combined, should be $60.
Seems fine to me.
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ok, as i stated already, there really is nothing on the market that costs as much as mattel products, EXCEPT OTHER MATTEL PRODUCTS. you bring up the DCUC 2 packs, which is actually an even worse example of price gouging. these are typically simply straight repacks of figures that have already been released at retail, so they don't even have the repaint/online only precedent going for them. not to mention the DCUC 2 packs often feature figures that, when individually packed, pre-dated the last several price hikes, so you're paying $30 for straight repacks of figures that, if they'd been purchased individually on their initial release, would have been $20 or $25 total.
nobody else sees mattel's prices as a little bit ostentatious? their toys are right there on the pegs, sitting next to toys in a larger scale with far more detailed sculpts, from much smaller companies, that cost the same or less than mattel products. and everybody's just…ok with this?
For 60 bones I'm more than happy with the MiniMates I already have.
For $60 I'd rather go to handsome boy modeling school. Father Guido sarducci says it's the best $60 he's ever spent.
For $60 I could go downtown and get a gift that keeps on giving.
I guess its all a matter of perspective. I haven't been happy with Mattel's prices, but I guess I've just learned to live with it.
I guess you could look at the TRU 4-pack as being a value when compared to the cost of ordering the individual Ghostbusters from MattyCollector, and it is on par with their other 2-packs (DCUC and MOTUCvs.DCUC). I think for a completiest or someone who stumbles upon the figures not having any previous knowledge about the line it would be tempting.
I agree, Mattel's pricing is ostentatious. They seem to think that they can charge whatever they want and people will pay it, and the thing is, they're right. I guess thats wherein lies the problem… people are WILLING to pay these ridiculous prices, but after doing so they are rewarded by poor QC and pretty much a seemingly careless/nonchalant attitude from TPTB.
When the level of fun goes DOWN and prices, frustration, and anxiety go UP, then it's time to move on to something else or stop collecting altogether.
@Kid Nicky:
Bears repeating.
And, as I've noted before, Minimates actually have more individual sculpting than the Matty releases. Plus proton streams. And ghosts.
PrfktTear is right; Mattel's prices are simply too high, and their products aren't worth it. And their mascot looks like a smug jerk. So I don't buy anything from them anymore. And, no, they don't care that I'm gone, but eventually they'll manage to drive off enough people that they'll be able to blame the fans for their failures again.
@Monkey boy: how in the blue blazes are you old enough to be making father guido references on poe ghostal? i just flat out don't buy it man… you're a pod!
Well dayraven, father Guido sarducci has been quite active far beyond his old school SNL schtick. I was specifically referring to his appearance on the somewhat obscure album by hip hop producers prince Paul and Automator, "so…how's your girl?" They called themselves handsome boy modeling school which was based on an episode from the classic chris Elliott sitcom "get a life" which I was a huge fan of. Hbms released two albums with tons of guest stars from lots of genres of music, and both albums feature interludes from don Novello in the Guido sarducci role.
And PrfkTear and Heli, both you guys seem to get it. Mattel has collectors by the balls, for two reasons: great sculpting and great licenses. However, their customer service model is disgusting, their QC problems are far too numerous to ignore, and their prices look laughable next to any comparable non-Mattel product. They do what they want because there are enough angry fans who still love the product enough to take it on the chin and buy it, no matter which new sadistic tactic mattel can dream up to make fans hate them. Then there are the flat out apologists who think Mattel can do no wrong, and those guys just boggle my mind. No toy company makes collecting as frustrated and difficult as mattel.
So you say don't but 'em. And by and large I don't. I really like the ghostbusters line, and I've wanted an optikk for years, but I can't justify giving in to mattel. As of now my matty purchases are limited to batman-related DCUC or movie masters, because I love batman, and I can actually buy the toys in a store rather than actively fight a website for hours during work time to have a chance to buy an overpriced figure. But I still don't like the price of the figures from mattel I DO buy, and they're really one retail price hike away from pricing me right out of their market.
I honestly believe someone high up in mattels corporate office gets some sadistic glee at seeing what new type of devirly they can get away with and still have a mindlessly dedicated fan base willing to follow them straight to hell with their wallets wide open. Star wars, transformers and gi Joe fans love to hate on hasbro, but hasbro is angelic when compared to matty.
Fun fact…
Father Guido Sarducci and Ray from Ghostbusters were in Casper and couldn't vanquish Stretch, Stinky and Fatso from the house.
Okay, for $60, you get four figures, all with the same sculpt, that are both smaller and with a crappier sculpt. Jesus, $60 is too much even if they stuck in a crapton of accessories. This boxset is a crappier deal then the DCUC 5-packs, and anything Hasbro or Neca has ever released (that contains more then 1 figure). The TMNT boxset was $40 when it came out, and the figures were a hellvua lot better sculpted then these things.
To clarify, Mattel makes mediocre to good product, but all of it is too expensive. For $40, $50 shipped, you get a 12-inch rotocast figure with terrible articulation. For $50 in stores, $60 shipped, Hasbro gets you a 19-inch figure with lights, sound, and a 3 3/4 figure.
I headed to TRU tonight to see what I could see, and I stumbled upon the GB 4-pack. All I can say is wow…
Maybe I've been a fool, living in a bubble where paying $20 for a single action figure is okay. Anyways, I don't see how Mattel sells this for $60 when Hasbro can sell their Galactus, which is something like 18", has light & sounds, AND has a Silver Surfer figure for only $55…
We shall see if the price is too high. If these go on clearance then the price is too high. If they don't then they were priced perfectly. The market never lies.
The market may never lie, but TRU also never puts stuff on clearance.
Prfktear that's what I'm saying. Paying online you start to forget that other toys exist that are a far better value. Its shopping with blinders on. Once you see this pack on a shelf with tons of other figures from all different companies, it really puts it in perspective.
My TRU still had a wall of those stupid Tiger Woods statues. They are still about 10-12 dollars. They also still have Star Trek and Terminator Salvation figures. The clearance prices aren't even moving that stuff. TRU doesn't really know what clearance means.
I've bought tons of stuff on clearance at TRU. Whenever something strikes me as particularly overpriced I skip it, knowing full well that it'll get clearanced later on. It almost always does…
Looks like Mattel will keep doing business as usual. Visited the same TRU; all 5 GB2 packs are gone. Maybe all to the same scalper, but either way its money in matty's pocket.
I didn't even realize this when I bought this: my Venkman figure in this set has STANTZ on his coveralls.
You'd think for $60 they'd have gotten at least the effing NAMES right. I completely regret buying this four pack and am planning on returning as soon as possible.
I got the set as an early Christmas present this weekend and I quite enjoy it. The Bill Murray likeness is perfect, and it's fun just tilting his head around in various positions just for the bemused Murray expressions that result. Though as I have never gotten any of the figures off of MattyCollector.com before, I am surprised by how small they seem in hand.