Poe’s Point > Man-E-Regrets

So, the Man-E-Faces color vote is over, and as expected, half/flesh-half/orange won. I voted for half-and-half back when the poll started. It was my first instinct upon being told about it at Toy Fair, and I didn’t question it at that time.

But I’ve changed my mind. It’s not that I specifically wish one of the other choices had won, but rather, I think either of the other choices should have won. This should have been an either-or situation.

Any orange in the coloring basically makes it the toy version. So now, rather than getting a definite vintage art or a definite toy-based version, we’re getting what amounts to a watered-down toy version. I think I (and everyone else who voted for the half-and-half) blew this one.

But I also I don’t think Mattel should have offered the half-and-half in the first place. It was an easy way out, and the majority of fans (myself included) took it. If orange and flesh had been the onely options, it would have been really interesting to see who won; even though flesh-tone had the higher vote count of the two in the actual poll, I suspect many half-and-half voters would have chosen toy colors.

Now, all that said, half-and-half did win, and I’m a big fan of democracy so, hey, that’s that. Still, I wish Mattel hadn’t even offered the option. Now we’ll have to hope that the Hawkman/Stratos, Aquaman/Mer-Man, Green Lantern/Zodac and Supergirl/Wonder Woman two-packs sell well enough to get us to a fleshtone Man-E-Faces/DCSH colors Two-Face two-pack (and, fingers crossed, minicomic-red Roboto/robot Brainiac 2-pack).

Also: It’s worth noting that my graphic up there isn’t quite correct, and that there is a difference beyond skin tones. All three pics were based on the vintage cross sell, and I only changed the skin color. The vintage toy had much brighter, pinkish tubes on the armor, rather than dark purple. The half-and-half is, unsurprisingly, somewhere in the middle.

Out of curiosity, I tossed up a poll over the weekend to see what people chose when they didn’t have the half-and-half option. It’s on the sidebar of the main page.

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  • Yeah…I wish one of the the two other options had won. Now one version (flesh color or orange) will most likely never get made.

    Oh well. Any Man-E-Faces is better than none, I suppose.

  • I just can't make myself feel strongly about this one way or another. I picked half and half because it was what I thought looked best, not what was most loyal. I'm ok with that.

  • I voted orange myself. ManE was one of my favorites as a kid. Hopefully I can get the orange version in a TRU 2-pack down the road.

  • I picked the toy version. I initially thought it was what we saw at Toy Fair, since it looked plenty orange. I'm glad Mattel offered the chance to vote, but it does seem that the half and half variant was so similar that it didn't really throw much new into the arena.

    My initial thought was that the biggest problem with releasing a 1/2 and 1/2 version would be that 2 more releases of MEF would be necessary in order to get a classic toy version and a cross sell version. Thinking about it, however, I just don't think that there really will seem to be too much of a difference between the 1/2 and 1/2 and the original version, so we'll probably just see the cross sell version somewhere down the road, most likely in a TRU 2 pack.

  • I really wanted the toy colours. Orange skin with the bright magenta hoses.I would have been happy with the cross sell, knowing that the 2nd option would be released eventually. Very disapointed the way this went down with the 3rd choice that doesn't look enough like either.

  • I am with you Poe….I voted half and half when it first went up, and now looking back, I feel like I blew my vote. I should have went with one or the other. (In that case, I would have done skin tone) But the half and half option at first glance seemed like a no brainer. It wasn't till later that I thought about it more that I felt I should have gone skin tone. Oh well. It's not that big of a deal in my mind, but I know how you feel.

  • FYI its the Supergirl/SHE-RA pack NOT Supergirl/Wonder Woman. 😛

    And I voted for the vintage toy colors. The half and half just seems half-assed and the naked under the armor look is too male bondage for my tastes.

  • I had the same issue as you. I really wanted a skin tone, and the half and half looked close enough to me so I voted that way. Afterwards I wish I could have changed my vote to the cross sell colors, since it would be unique over any previously offered MEF.

  • I voted for 1/2 & 1/2 myself. I never liked the flesh-tone MEF picture as a kid, and as an adult I realize now that it invoked a claustrophobic feel to me; that MEF was a man trapped inside that giant kit and it creeped me out. I know, I know, that has nothing to do with the true character, but it's still what I felt. I didn't care for the orange and pink as a kid, either, but that just had to do with a color scheme that I didn't like, so for me this compromise is great.

    But I have also mellowed a bit toward this line from the things I've learned about the management of it, and frankly have become more appreciative that the figures even exist at all. So I'm not complaining too loudly about design choices, but appreciating them.

    Previously I criticized people as rump-swabs for Matty for this kind of behavior, but I've changed my tune.

  • That's pretty much what I said when the poll was running.

    Dead Man Walking wrote:

    Give me vintage orange. I always liked how different his skin color was than the other characters.

    If they plan on doing two versions of the character, I’d prefer they did one light-skinned (flesh-tone being an imprecise word, as flesh can be a huge range of shades) and one orange one.

    If they do one light-skinned and one light/orange mix, the only people who lose are the ones that wanted orange.

  • Which is why I voted orange… these have all been a balance between classic toy or cross sell art, to suddenly add this third option suddenly makes this a man-e without a place… That said, I still can't wait, a votes a vote and some orange is better than all pink, to me

  • I voted 1/2 & 1/2 but wish i didn't as well.

    Reading Scott's comments about it sounds more like not that this will be the Vintage version but that they will be releasing all three versions, which renders this one useless (outside of then being able to have all three faces on display).

    I like both color schemes and would have been happy with both becuase I am 100% confident both would have been released.

    Oh well, what can we do now, we let mattel trick us into buying the same figure thrice. And all they can say is (the standard response of) "blame the fans."

  • I voted for half and half and have no regrets.

    For me it's a matter of what looks best and I prefer the half and half color scheme over the toy or card back colors

  • Rustin Parr wrote:

    I voted 1/2 & 1/2 but wish i didn’t as well.

    Reading Scott’s comments about it sounds more like not that this will be the Vintage version but that they will be releasing all three versions, which renders this one useless (outside of then being able to have all three faces on display).

    That was the thing that got me to. When I voted, half and half seemed like a good option so that we would only get one version and I wouldn't have to buy both skin/toy versions. But after Scotts comments, it now left me feeling like I would end up having to buy all three versions. That was irritating.

  • i hate to say this in public, but i did it to spite the motuc fans (but only some of them.)

    see, i have this theory, if you feel forced to buy a toy, don't. you're never forced or compelled to buy anything, and caving to that "pressure" is bad for you, in every way.

    i don't even intend on getting man e… but i get why they did the vote they did. they basically now have a mandate to do all three versions of man-e, over time, and i truly want to stick it to those who feel they MUST complete the collection cuz that's DUMB. so now, some collector will have to buy three versions of a toy they only want one of… and that's funny.

    the vote doesn't hurt those who exercise any kind of restraint, or feel entitled to be picky about their purchases, it only screws over the complete tools. to the patient among us, they'll get "their" version (or they'll take this perfectly acceptable compromise) i'm sure of it. so sure, i'll bet other people's money on it. 😉

  • I would have picked orange and then fleshtone. I don't mind the 1/2 and 1/2, but for me it is the weakest.

  • Yeah, I also went half and half. I didn't even realize the toy fair model was orange until the poll. As it is, I'm pretty satisfied with this deco as the only Man-E-Faces being released, but it leaves a big door open for debate once a repaint possibility comes down the road. I felt a bit thrown off by the mentions of an orange "jumpsuit." I always felt the vintage version had orange skin all over, but I saw that some people perceived the painted bits as a different color than the plastic parts. I really didn't want an attempt at a toy deco to have flesh a flesh colored face and arms with an orange body.

  • Also, I wouldn't mind seeing a vintage deco one day. I may end up missing the white eyes on the human face

  • I picked half and half because I don't want a "Snooki Orange" Man-E-Faces and teh pale Man-E looks too much like a gimp. Had there been only 2 choices Pale or Snooki I would've chosen pale… cause I can give it a wash to darken his skin a bit.

  • I voted flesh color but not really surprised about the vote. With all the debates about colors and flocking, its old hat by now.

    Just waiting for the final review version of MEF so we can see all the Catch-22's. Roboto and his failed action features were a lesson for sure.

  • Pardon the "Welcome to my world" indulgence, but …

    Try being a Joe collector. Half the homage figs we get, you have to squint your eyes to blur out all of the colors, parts and headsculpts that don't even remotely resemble their ARAH-era counterparts.

    You MOTUC guys have it SOOOOOOOO so good. Ha! Worrying about orange tint! Ha!

  • I voted half-and-half and I don't have any regrets. I didn't like the fleshtone and as Snarf! Snarf! so eloquently pointed out, I didn't want a Snooki colored orange either.

  • @ dayraven: I just need to say this… You're entitled to your opinions, what I have difficulty understanding, however, is where you figure they give you "carte blanche" to shit on others. Seriously.

  • I voted half-and-half and I'm glad I did. I actually think neither color looks that great, but the combination of the two toned down the garish orange while darkening the skin to make him look less naked. It was the best of both worlds in my eyes.

    However, if the half-and-half choice wasn't there, I suspect I would have chose orange. I guess I like the idea of his suit completely covering him. For all we know his entire body changes when he switches heads.

  • I didn't vote since, being someone who has avoided Mattels honeypot trap, It wouldn't be revevant to me.

    However, if I had voted, I would have gone for the half and half, since on paper it sounds the beast, and this line is starved fore creativity, even illegitimate creativity like this comprimise. Errors and poor choices of the past shouldn't be repeated just because it was that was 20 years ago.

  • I voted cardback because he's clearly sculpted to look like the cross sell art. The toy Man-e had a different look to his helmet – it was more simplified. For me, an orange skin Man-e needs a new headsculpt as well.

    I would bet that the results of a poll without the half and half option would have been pretty evenly split.

  • Poe wrote:

    I’m impressed by how neck-and-neck the poll is so far…

    I'm guessing that internal voting at Mattel ended up the same way, hence throughing all the options at us for a tie-breaker.

  • I voted half and half. I would have gotten both the orange and the pale version, but we might not be getting MEF at retail in other colors.

    Thanks to Skeletor/Lex Luthor pegwarming, Wave 2 showing up almost 5 months late to retail and Wave 3 being really unpopular with fans, I think Mattel sees the writing on the wall for the TRU 2packs.

  • I either never saw this photo or forgot about it, but it alleviates some of my doubt after voting for half & half:
    http://www.mastersunbound.com/Toys/man.htm

    The MOTUC version should end up pretty close to the vintage toy prototype, with its card accurate sculpt and orange tone to the body. The prototype's flesh colored face seems to support the orange "jumpsuit" idea, but I prefer that his face be the same as the body. I guess an argument could be made that we're essentially getting a vintage pre-production style Man-E-Faces. From that angle, I can get a geeky kick out of it.

  • For some reason, the cross-sell, flesh-toned MEF has a very "David Lynch's Dune" look to me.

    Speaking of which, cross-sell is starting to pull away in the poll…

  • @ Poe:

    I agree so very much on that one. I like the idea of the sculpt and colors matching the art, but something about the pale skin makes me uncomfortable.

    I think you've just said why. My brother watched Dune non-stop when I was very young and very freaked out by every single thing about it. Except his Sand Worm toy. That's right, the film was so disturbing as a kid that the nasty monster was the least weird thing to me.