After my last post about NICDIP (“Now I Can Die in Peace”) action figures, I decided to throw the question out to a number of reviewers and collectors from other websites.
So again, the full question is, “What action figures would you need to get before you could say, ‘Now I can die in peace’?”
Michael Crawford of mwctoys.com:
One of the biggest for me has finally made it – the 1966 Batman show. Of course, I won’t be completely happy until I have the Hot Toys Batman, Robin and Batmobile in my clutches, but the Mattel toys were a nice start.
Others for me, in no particular order:
- Blade Runner. I want these in sixth scale, high quality. Just Deckard is fine, but a series of five or six would be ideal.
- Firefly. Another series that really needs to be done in sixth scale to be done right.
- Duckman. I loved this cartoon, one of the few that managed to be funny and touching at the same time. They also did the all-time best Star Trek parody. Something done by Mezco would be nice in the usual 6″ scale.
- Zorro. We’ve had a few nice pulp characters in recent years, but my favorite has yet to be made. A whole line based on the Disney show would be great.
- Lost in Space. Yes, I know we’ve had a decent 9″ line, and a slightly less so 12″ line, but neither were complete. A great 6 – 7″ sculpted line would be fantastic, including a bunch of the cool monsters and a B-9 that lights up and talks.
Here’s the sad part – if the Gods smiled kindly and gave me these five,
I’m sure I’d be able to come up with five more.
Sculptor Jean St. Jean:
- Planet of the Apes
- Batman ’66
- Logan’s Run
- Hammer Horror
Sculptor Joe Amaro:
- The rest of the G1 Dinobots as Masterpiece editions
- 6″ Condorman action figures with vehicles
- ElfQuest 4″ Figures and wolfs to be in scale with most 6″ figures
- Updated 4″ Macross / Robotech figures. With a proper scaled Valkyrie / Veritech fighter that fully transforms in to the three different modes.
- 4″ Dragonlance figures with proper scaled articulated Dragons
- Updated 4″ M.A.S.K. figures with transforming vehicles
- Updated 6″ Buck Rogers in the 25th Century figures with proper scaled Thunderfighter
Nathan Newell of Dork Dimension:
I thought I’d limit myself to toys that could be reasonably produced and that I could realistically purchase to keep myself from imagining something like a gigantic properly-scaled 3.75″ AT-AT with all the bells and whistles that could never really exist (although too late, I guess… I just imagined it). Anyway, here we go!
- 24″ Modern Godzilla – Godzilla is a character that demands a big toy, and as a kid, there was nothing cooler than the 24″ Shogun Warriors toy. We’ll never get a Godzilla that’s properly scaled to a 3.75″ action figure line because it would be insanely huge, but I need a new Godzilla that’s at least the biggest toy on the block… and reasonably priced. A few years ago a Japanese company called Concorde released an 18″ Heisei Godzilla that almost fits the bill. It’s too expensive and I’d prefer something a little larger, but it’s close. Also, remember the Ultimate Godzilla figure from the GINO days? That toy was spectacular… easily the best thing to come out of that movie. Hopefully they’ll do something similar for Godzilla 2014.
- Diamond Select Toys USS Prometheus – I eagerly read all the Diamond Select Q&As in the hope that they’ll reveal the next ship in their Starship Legends line. I’m sure we’ll get some really awesome ships before the line tanks out, but I’d love to see the USS Prometheus. You might remember it from the Voyager episode “Message in a Bottle” (or you might not, considering the reception Voyager gets these days). In the episode, it’s a cool arrow-shaped prototypical ship that can split apart into 3 sections for a “multi-vector assault mode”. This would be a great ship for display, especially if there were three stands included so the pieces could be displayed separately. Fans seem to dig the Prometheus as it gets a lot of requests. I think it’s a long shot because it’s relatively obscure and there isn’t another version of the ship that the mold can be reused for, but I’m hoping for the best!
Justin of GeneralsJoes.com:
Originally I thought maybe you were talking about existing â€œholy grailâ€ figures, but this is a whole different animal. Love it. Here are my thoughts:
- Cobra La Pythona. Even as a kid in 1987 I somewhat scoffed at Cobra La in the G.I. Joe animated movie, but Iâ€™ve grown to appreciate their weirdness and Pythonaâ€™s place in the G.I. Joe lexicon. She was a huge part of that â€˜87 film and was made completely bad ass, and to not have her in action figure form seems like a bad oversight even nearly 30 years later. Modern style sculpting and articulation with a removable cloak would be a bonus.
- Four inch â€œmodern G.I. Joeâ€ scale/style Metal Gear Solid figures. Pretty much the video game that defined early 2000â€™s video games for me, Metal Gear Solid provided a wealth of excellent designs, terrific characters and a unique universe built. Yes I have the MacFarlane Toys versions which are not nearly as poseable as Iâ€™d like (and donâ€™t match my preferred scale) and just the idea of Solid, Liquid, and the associated personalities co-existing in a G.I. Joe universe is totally awesome.
- G.I. Joe: Renegades Roadblock and pretty much everyone else. A highlight of G.I. Joe story telling, one might argue G.I. Joe: Renegades developed the universe and characters better than either live action film, yet was mercilessly canceled before it had a chance to shine, and only a fraction of the characters were made in toy form. We need a Roadblock worst of all to round off the G.I. Joe team, but Iâ€™d love a Destro, Baroness, Dr. Mindbender and pretty much every single other character from that rich universe.
If I think too hard Iâ€™ll come up with a lot of others…
Julius Marx of Action Figure Insider:
As a DC fan I used to say “as long as the line gets to Animal Man I’ll be happy”, but now he’s a bit more mainstream and we’ve been getting Animal Man figures (DCD, DCUC, DCIH, JLU, Heroclix, Eaglemoss) I’ve moved the bar farther up and now say “As long as they get to Dr. Destiny I’ll be happy.” So far only JLU has reached that goal.
I still want someone to make at least the 2 larger version of Audrey II from Little Shop of Horrors.
And maybe a good 6-7″ Dave Bowman from 2001 (in space suit)
Then I can die in peace.
Brian Adams of Cool and Collected:
I’ve said it before, but I would love to see a line of Red Dawn figures. As I think about it, it might be kind of fun to have a line of figures based on John Hughes movies.
Our own Doc Thomas:
Many of my NICDIP figures have already been made, including the amazing Invader Zim action figures by Palisades, NECA’s sensational Valve and BioShock action figures, and now the expanding 6″ Star Wars Black line. (Perhaps a RE5 Albert Wesker should also be a part of this, but I know how unlikely that is so I bought a pretty-good custom figure from eBay, sating that desire with a figure perfectly in scale with NECA and Palisades’ excellent pieces.)
My own additions to this would echo some of the other requests, including a properly detailed and articulated 6″ Indiana Jones and more Masterpiece Transformers including the Dinobots. One thing I’d expected to see requested more was a proper Ripley in a Powerloader from Aliens, though I guess NECA has been sating so much fan demand for Aliens that that’s probably an eventuality.
Something I’ve seen crop up in other articles like this is a demand for Final Fight figures, for which you can most definitely sign me up! Ideally in the identical scale to SOTA’s Street Fighters, so I can have Mike Haggar, Guy and Cody in the same line.
My #1 NICDIP line would be Silent Hill, as described in my article here. Considering the popularity of the games in Japan, and the Japanese desire to make PVCs and all-sorts of absolutely everything imaginable it is amazing to me that we’re only recently seeing plastic incarnations of Pyramid Head and other iconic Silent Hill creatures. Here’s hoping that sooner or later, a company like NECA will take a shot on the licence and bring some of these characters to the shelf.
I’d like to add the phenomenal but sadly unproduced Palisades Sesame Street line. Those prototype sculpts and packaged pics, they make me insane; the concept of having the street itself a build-a-diorama with each toy including a part, as well as having a number or a letter, is genius, and as a follow-up to the Muppets it would have cemented Palisades as one of the best action figure companies of all time. (Had that not played out the way it did, of course.)
John Kent of Toyfinity:
I read this e-mail when you first sent it over, and I had a hard time answering this question. There are so many things which I would have ranked high on the list once upon a time that have been beaten into irrelevance by overexposure – Aliens and Predator, for example. Movie Maniac-styled figures have gone into hundreds of different directions that one could never have imagined circa 1995. This has happened to the extent where I’m not really shocked by anything a company announces.
Transformers has shown that they will do any character that will make them money, so the once-upon-a-time “we need new Bludgeon/Whirl/etc” is more of a waiting game now. Even classic Kenner styled 3Â¾” is something coming back – I’m waiting for them to announce JAWS, which was one of my top wants before the days when everything got a toy line.
There are missed opportunities – a Kenner Dropship and APC for their animated Aliens line would have been top-level pieces once upon a time. A Kenner Cyborg Superman to wrap out their versions of “Reign of the Superman” characters would have been awesome – but these aren’t things that have much relevance to me now. It would have been nice to have a new Micronauts line, but I don’t have full faith in Hasbro to pull it off after seeing so many of their recent 3 3/4 lines.
It was only this line of thought which led me to an actual answer. There are four things I’d like to see toy-wise eventually, even if it requires I pick up the licenses myself:
- An actual honest-to-goodness Rom figure in 3Â¾”, scaled to the Horsemen Power Lords. He’s one of the only things from my childhood that has never seen so much as a reboot/better version/rehashing (I know about Spaceknights from Marvel. That’s not Rom). As much as I like the original figure, I really want the Marvel Comics interpretation of the design on my toy shelf. Hell, give him Glyos joints for utter perfection.
- A Movie Maniacs style Doctor Detroit. Yeah, I know. I’m obsessed with some crap Dan Ackroyd vehicle from the early 80s. But it’s my list. Bonus points if it’s a two pack with his arch nemesis Mom.
- Along those lines, a Toonces the Driving Cat figure and car, 3 3/4 scale. My display would be simple – every month, he’d be running over a different 3 3/4 scale figure from some different franchise. Major props to the company who does this if they pump out a Tooncinator variant. I think it would be hilarious if a MonsterArts level figure was done of this character.
- And finally (and very specifically), a Glyos System line of Mega Man figures. My scale choice would be similar to Galactic Heroes – make Mega Man small, so the big villains can be really BIG. I’d sell them as two packs by game – pack one would be basic Mega Man with a beam blast and the first baddie you’re supposed to fight with the Mega Buster in that game and his weapon shot. Pack two would be Mega Man in the colors of boss one with a reused shot from that boss versus the next one you fight. Time has shown that people do want Mega Man figures, but perhaps not at mass-retail. A nice limited run line would get the character choices out there that Mega Man fans have wanted as toys for a long time. I’d probably do a series of black repaints just to reuse the tooling and give customizers something to mess with.
Ridureyu of Nerditis:
Well, I’ve put some thought into it, and although there are lots of things I would love to see – a King of Fighters line, proper Castlevania and Metroid toys, a full set from Final Fantasy VI, or all sorts of random movie monsters I really like (The Gill-Man from Monster Squad, the Zoanoids from the live-action Guyver), or about a billion versions of Hedorah; and not to mention the holy grails that have been made – Revoltech Jagi from Fist of the North Star, NECA’s Predators, Demon’s Chronicle, etc.; I guess one thing that really stands out would be a super-articulated, SH MonsterArts-quality Cyclops from The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad. I practically grew up on that movie, and I wold love to own something better than the large vinyl figures currently on the market.
And finally, NoisyDvl5 of ItsAllTrue:
Iâ€™ve been thinking about this off and on all week and Iâ€™m not quite sure. So much of the last few years has been amazing. The Super Powers homages in DCUC, the MP line, MOTUC, etc. I also feel like there should be a certain bar to an NICDIP, higher than figures Iâ€™d toss into my old most requested articles, but maybe Iâ€™m making it overly difficult. Then again, some of these NICDIP ideas are stuff that it is NEVER going to happen and that may be setting the bar too high.
For DCUC, there are a few oddballs I really wish theyâ€™d gotten to: Prometheus (Batman villain), Donna Troy (early Teen Titans), Perez Zatanna, & Warlord.
A MOTUC Warlord would also be a kickass figure.
More toy lines than single figures, but Iâ€™d love to see Captain Power, Cops N Crooks, or Starriors come back as toy lines.
I will have to buy a Hot Toys â€™66 Frank Gorshin Riddler if they get to it. No doubt. And HT having the Ghostbusters license or getting back to the Back of the Future stuff would have me go crazy. And similarly Go Hero needs to get around to the Phantom.
I would love to see some Go-Bots updated, like Cy-Kill or Leader-1.
A Rocketeer, any Rocketeer. 6â€, 12â€ etc.
And finally, a well articulated Keaton Batman in 6â€.
Update: Sculptor Jason Frailey sends along his NICDIP selections:
My main answer would have been Ghostbusters figures, more accurately sculpted than Mattel did them, complete with proton streams and straining facial expression alternate heads, and the proton streams would have a curling twisted end that could fit a companion ghost figure. Also, any other characters from either of the films, such as the fish like blue ghost that comes out of the subway, the library ghost in both human and a post-demon form, Vigo from the second film, hell, I’d even get a Janine Melnitz figure (well, maybe).Â Â I’d love to have worked on Ghostbusters figures.Honestly, the Ghostbusters being done very well (and preferably by me, hee hee) is the only thing that actually bugs me, most toys don’t really fall into the “now I can die in peace” category.I’d also love some original movie ninja turtles done at Neca or higher quality level. Â I remember the 1991 movie Turtle toys were cool at the time, I think I had Raphael, but now it could be much better.Other ones I’d probably laugh and have to buy if I saw (and they were fairly good quality) would be 3 Amigos, Pee-Wee on his bike (with the tongue out), Beetlejuice or Freddy mutations (they both have become cool snake monsters), Dolph as he-man and any of the enemies, Willow, goblins from Legend, more characters from Dark Crystal (Augra and all the Skekses), most creatures from Labyrinth, Evil Ed from Evil Dead 2, not to mention any relaunches of obscure ’80s toy/toon properties from my childhood.
You know what guys, we're still missing the "holiest of holies" (in my opinion) that a lot of us children of the 80s probably still want: an updated, well made, and well planned THUNDERCATS line. A Thundercats line that has all the modern stables we want: fantastic sculpting, plenty of useful articulation, super clean paint, a wide variety of accessories, swappable heads, hands, and a FREAKING complete cast!!!!!!
Is that too much to ask????
We all know Ban Dai dropped the ball two years ago by first only making 8 in. Lion-o and Tygra and not having the foresight to give us Cheetara and Panthro early on. Those figures had some weird problems too (stupid droopy Sword of Omens!!! Ugh!)
If someone can please pick this license up and make them the way they deserve to be made then I for one can NICDIP!!!
A good 6'' harry potter
Indiana jones 6'' (they just announced the figma!)
Kratos (god of war 3) with awesome articulation 6''
Darth vader 6'' (probably coming down the line)
Link (twilight princess) 6''
a neca made Ray Stantz
Maybe a good 6'' tony from the movies, and other Zelda characters would be great!
Funny thing: 2014 might actually be NICDIP year for me.
The thing is, I've always wanted a comic-styled Batman in the 1/12 or 6-inch scales. He's got to have the white eyes, and he's got to have Marvel Legends – level articulation or better.
I've got two potentials coming in next year – DCC's Greg Capullo Batman, and Bandai's SH Figuarts Injustice Batman.
Still very possible that either is going to end up disappointing me, but I'm willing to see how it goes.
Love this concept! The first NICDIP figure line I can think of (and have talked about before) would be updated Silverhawks (with some much needed articulation). A Silverhawks line made in the DCU Classics scale would be amazing.
I’d also love a Kenny Powers figure and some NECA Three Amigos!
SW 6" is something I've wanted, but the specific NICDIP figure has not been announced yet, despite being the ultimate Star Wars character: Darth Vader. They have sculpting the 4" versions down to a science at this point, can't wait to see a 6" (hopefully more like 7") version.
It is a slippery as all get out slope, but 1/6 customs are a way to get a lot of these highly sought after movie franchises in 1/6, such as Clint Eastwood figures (the only way to get him, considering that he hasn't signed off on his likeness and likely won't). Michael listed a Blade Runner line as an all-time want and Scott Pettersen has actually done 5 characters from that movie already. Now, they are all extremely expensive ($700+) and super limited (especially now, as most have sold out) but they are gorgeous figures that often surpass HT quality.
Well that is the big question- are you in the market for $700+ a pop action figures? Scott's work is exceptional, and you can see how his work clearly surpasses what HT has to offer, and is among the best custom figures available at any price. But the customs market has really begun to get quite out of hand on the pricing, and I think one must ask themselves if they really feel the quality is worth the cost and effort.
But all that said, these are $700+ each, and $400-500 unpainted kits. And double the price of other comparable-quality customs, and three times that of the average HT figure. Customs are a slippery slope because you spend big-bucks for what is essentially a constantly-evolving market, always improving, and the "older" figures devalue very quickly. Every year a new artist comes to the table and shakes it all up; your $850 Deckard figure could quickly become a $150 Deckard if a new, better artist comes to the scene. While I collect for love not money, this can be a huge deal for some.
You can easily score a beautiful custom made figure of Eastwood, or a Deckard figure, for $150-300 complete. There are many talented painters and sculptors out there who deliver equivalent quality heads- or better- for $150 fully painted. And for those who want just the character, and want to spend less than $200, there's the Android Hunter or Yamato Eastwood, which might be too 90's style for some. While Scott does good work, great work, are those figures really worth $5,000ish for the set of five? As someone who's gone in and out of 1:6 for over a decade now, I'm not so sure, especially when you look at the Sideshow Forum's Buy/Sell threads, and see what others are offering and for how much. I think mass-produced figures of both Eastwood and Blade Runner are possible someday, especially with the recent changes and deals both parties have made over the last few years.
You make a lot of excellent points and I don't really disagree with you. Rainman's GBU figures look like jokes now (with the exception of Angel Eyes), and those are super pricey figures from just 5 years ago. $700-$800 for any toy is probably too much money, no matter the quality.
1/6 customs are all about how badly do you want a character. A lot of them do devalue – Dexter figures come to mind, as I think all the WD figures will in the next couple years. There are, however, stuff like Rainman's Wonka DX that can fetch $5k+ on a good day. Regardless, you need to spend the money knowing that you may never see it again, as with any toy, rather than looking at it as an investment or something that you can easily cash out of it it falls out of favor. I bit on Iminime's Cowboy knowing that a better one may show up in 2 years, or that the bottom might fall out of this and I may never sniff my $600 again. I bought a custom Snake Plissken and lo and behold, an official one was just announced (SSC, but still.) That is just the risk with the hobby.
When it comes down to it, wait and see doesn't always work, and there is a chance that we never see an official Blondie or Taxi Driver or Alonzo Harris. If you have the money, you can have one shortly, or you can bide your time and hope. Value is subjective, and for some people, the money is worth it.
You are right, value is subjective, and for me, the money is worth it as well- but just not for the examples you bring up. The custom Eastwood I commissioned for over $400 back in the day just didn't get the "shelf glory" that it's previous kitbashed Yamato Eastwood got from guests to my house. The much, much cheaper and toyetic Yamato figure got so much more love and attention from guests that I sold off the much more detailed, expressive, and expensive figure.
I think a lot of the value on that Wonka figure you mention has more to do with it being so limited and rare, than it's true original value at that price; 1:6 scale is so overtaken by speculators that it skews the value upward in an unnatural way. Is it worth $5k because it's such a great piece, or because there is no one else offering that character to Wonka uberfans? Is it's limited nature and fanaticism of the fanbase, along with speculators throwing their hats in the ring trying to make a buck? I mean screen-used props from the film don't often go to that price at auction.
I think at a certain price point one has to really analyze what they're doing, and prioritize, as well as a little coming back to Earth/Common sense. I've met 1:6 collectors who live at home, but have $4k of Hot Toys in their basement. I've met people who collected *every* Hot Toys figure just because, even getting characters they don't like for top dollar. If someone can afford to drop $5k on a Wonka, and you don't have to justify to the wife why you're not going on vacation that year, and on top of that explain five years later how that $5k toy is now a $100, and that is all cool with you… by all means, go for it. I just feel because of the speculation and trendiness of the scale at this time, a lot of these pieces are very overvalued and we'll see many 1:6 scale collectors suffering from "1990's POTF2 Star Warsitis"; large amounts of collectibles thought to be valuable but are not at all. We saw it in the 90's with Medicom, we saw it in the 2000's with Sideshow… when a figure becomes the price of someone's rent for the month, folks should think about that before driving things up further.
I do agree that we may see the bottom fall out of this, although I don't think it will be quite as dramatic as a $5k to $100 drop-off that you mention. I also feel that the whole "common-sense vs. collecting" thing is not unique to 1/6 as I have also met similar people who are irresponsibly obsessive with toys or collectibles that didn't have a single drop of 1/6 in their collections. Speculator's are also all over the place throughout toy collecting, they just represent a higher percentage of the 1/6 base. I just feel your last paragraph, although correct and something I agree with, can be applied to the greater toy or collectible hobby as a whole.
Funny thing also, I have completely switched over to 1/6 aside from the occasional MU or NECA figure, and I have not increased my toy budget. I simply sold my old ML/DCUC/Transformers and stopped buying new ones. Again, it is really easy to lose your mind in 1/6, but it really isn't as bad as you think once you realize how quickly smaller scale collecting adds up.
The only one of mine in that list is Noisy's .. PHANTOM !! some one needs to get to Phantom and Tarzan !!
Can't Believe Michael didn't hav Clint eastwood Hot Toys in his list, thought he was a Western fan.. 😉
For me, the Warlord is the poster boy for Mattel's hubris. They could've released him at any time in the DC line. They could've released him in a two pack with a Longbow Hunters style Green Arrow in a "Best of Grell" style on Matty or as a comic con exclusive. They could've released him in MOTUC as an homage to the old Remco line. They did none of that, and with DCUC dead and MOTUC finishing up their vintage figures, none of that will happen.That is why the Warlord is my number one NICDIP figure.
The fact that a MOTUC Warlord has not been made is a crime ! A Warlord based mini-sub of 6 figs with Travis Morgan The Warlord, Deimos, Machiste, Tara, Mariah,and either Shakira or Jennifer Morgan , would be the stuff !Or at least a Con -Exclusive Warlord stand alone figure.Mattel is in control of both properties so it could be done.Other properties could be shoehorned in as well, a M.U.S.C.L.E. style figure cast in fleshy pink (variants cast in the later colors of the series) with spare parts to make a bevy of styles,Greyskull's Pet Monster a Flocked fig based on My Pet Monster,World Wrestling Eternia could give us Ultimate Warrior and Undertaker regular and Battle Armor,and Blackstar & Bravestarr would sell out immediately.
Julius: Re larger version of Audrey II from Little Shop of Horrors. I have one (it's a bank) and it is chomping on Seymore (from Mattel's Ghostbusters) right now. http://www.toynerd.com/index.php/2010/08/05/feed-…
A new 24" Godzilla is definitely on my list too.
Mine are NES Punch-Out! figures. A full line including every fighter. Done in the style of the SOTA Street Fighter figures.
NES to start, but I'd take Arcade, SNES and Wii fighters as well.
Hell, even the terrible space sequel on the NES could produce some cool alien figures (think about the MOTUC New Adventures figures and how consistently cool those are).
Ah, ROM! I'd love one in 6-inch, or "proper" scale.
And now you know!
I saw that 18" Hesei Godzilla at a comic shop once, but it was filthy and priced at $200. A large (preferrably Heisei) Godzilla would be awesome, can't wait to see NECAs 18" figure based on the new movie. It was revealed a while back that Jakks Pacific had the license for "large-scale figures" for the new movie. They make the 30" Batman, Superman, and Darth Vader figures that you may have seen around. A Godzilla like that, rotocast but witha good sculpt, could be the biggest G yet, and probably $40-$50.
And a Marvel Legends-type Rocketeer has been my dream for a long time. C'mon Disney.
A Jakks Pacific 30" Godzilla would be absolutely perfect!
holy crap yes